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At my age, i don't want to be judged for my body type, or if i can give a quick—witted answer in 60 seconds while the, you know, dong is going. there is complexities around pageants and they can be highly empowering, but there's a lot that needs to change for them to be that way. so, winning that pageant gave you the foot in the door, so to speak, in bollywood, but it wasn't immediate acceptance oi’ success. you know, it's an industry in which, even today, i would say, to a large extent, the notion of beauty has got to do with, you know, the colour of your skin, a certain body shape. were ...

I just don't want competition like that! i don't want to, now, at my age, i don't want to be judged for my body type, or if i can give a quick—witted answer in 60 seconds while the, you know, dong is going. there is complexities around pageants and they can be highly empowering, but there's a lot that needs to change for them to be that way. so, winning that pageant gave you the foot in the door, so to speak, in bollywood, but it wasn't immediate acceptance 01’ success. you know, it's an industry in which, even today, i would say, to a large extent, the notion of beauty has got to do with,...

The last two apps you downloaded were for diets – ugh.

Where you and i might be shopping online. it knows what sizes i'm putting in. so it's going to present models that are my body shape and my style. at the same time, again, come on, do we want more fake crap in the world? no, we want a real person. and i think we are going to start paying a premium in the future for real. right? >> rachel: i'm going to use your words "true that." thanks, kurt, great information. appreciate you joining us this morning both things for us to be concerned about. all right. look what made -- look what they made me do. okay, that's from a taylor swift song. taylor sw...

Perhaps a little transparency as to the miserable costs of looking the way women are told we're supposed to look can spark a conversation we need to have.