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Advice about, you know, be careful, he's going it flip or what have you because if you're the attorney for the president, jonathan, and from your past dealings you know that this guy is above board and he's done things, you know, within the law, you wouldn't have to say that. you'd say, hey, you have nothing to hide. talk to whoever you want to. >> i think that the president's trying to reach out to get any advice he can in a pressure cooker situation. look at what the mueller investigation has done. it's created this absolute paranoia to anyone that's involved. with the president reaching out...

What about the advice to quit? don't talk to anyone. people might be wearing a body wire. why don't i just quit? if literally going to work is this dangerous? >> it is. you should quit if that's the situation. no question in my mind. but if you're going to stay -- >> yeah? >> you have got to assume that everything you say is going to be used against you and it could all be recorded. i mean, the biggest thing with papadopoulos is, he was out there for three months. >> right. >> yeah. nick, betsy, jason, thank you all for joining us tonight. appreciate it. >> sure thing. coming up, the preside...

Street. they're shaking in their boots and checking the cell phones to see did i have a conversation with this guy? did i have a wiretap? was he wired when he talked? >> nick, as a defense lawyer in this case with the clients that hired defense counsel, what are you telling them tonight about how to handle themselves in the white house? >> i think they have to be very careful about who they talk to. my advice would be, don't talk to anybody. assume that everybody is wearing a body wire. assume that -- >> let me stop you there. what about the advice to quit? don't talk to anyone. people might b...

Care of quietly over there and heard fewer leaks. the fact that nothing about papadopoulos leaked this time shows that the people unhappy with trump, concerned about the behavior, they can hand it over to the investigation and the republicans can try to get the work done. the problem, of course, is, if there are no leaks the trump campaign never knows when anything is going to happen. i have talked to people on k street. they're shaking in their boots and checking the cell phones to see did i have a conversation with this guy? did i have a wiretap? was he wired when he talked? >> nick, as a de...

Wearing a body wire. was playing dial a crook. >> what makes you think that? >> because it took so long. you're talking july, august, september, it's now october. there is no real good reason to have sealed that information and the fact that he was cooperating -- in fact, i think it refers to him, the information as active cooperator. he was out there doing things to prove the truth of what he was telling the prosecutors. and that's what any good prosecutor would do. so with that amount of time going by, and knowing how robert mueller operates, knowing that he knows all the tools at his dispos...