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Well, you know, that's no longer apt because in this white house, you have as many factions, it seems like, as you do up on capitol hill and they're all going at each other. they all have their own agendas. this is totally different than anything we've seen here in any administration since i came here in 1969. people say it was a great to her, but so was 9/11, and i don't think any of us want another 9/11. but it's fascinating in its own way as a journalist to watch this. and frankly, i don't know how this comes out. >> can you govern like that? >> well, i don't know if you can or not. i guess...

Chief of staff john kelly struggling to manage chaos in the white house. joining me now, a man who has seen it all in washington, veteran journalist bok schieffer who is the office of overload, finding the truth in today's did he luge of news. i think he's probably seen it all, but maybe not quite what we're looking at now. i think the title is appropriate. thank you, by the way for coming on. >> i thought i'd seen it all, don. >> let's talk about the book, then, over load, finding the truth in today ae did he luge of news. you address a problem of fake news, writing in part it is easier and f...