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If it wasn't the post office, security cameras and actual individual materials? >> i think what you have a security protocol, anytime you have a commercial operation like cnn, they will have high security, rigid security protocols. especially a high security individual like george soros would catch that kind of thing. but, the unabomber and how long that took, the digital footprint is so much more pronounced than it was that when the unabomber was active. not only that but in this post 9/11 era, our bomb techs have gotten so much better in the technical exploitation of intelligence. and so we ...

-- security cameras and the actual individual materials? >> i think what you have is security protocol -- many times when you have a commercial operation like cnn they are going to have a high ridge of security protocol. andot george soros would have hh security protocol. the digital footprint is so much more pronounced today than it was when the uni bomber was acting. our bomb techs have gotten so much better in the technical exploitation of intelligence so we've seench over the last sevel years almost two decades that we've been engaged in counter id operations it has improved dramatically s...

Historic friction between the fbi and nypd who set up up their own counter-terrorism division because of that do you see any friction? >> you are not going to see any frikdz. this is so potentially serious that you are going to see. what you will see, there may be some friction. brian: who is taking the lead? >> i don't know at this time who is taking the lead from. what we see it's the nypd. the fbi often doesn't want to be seen. they are doing the more technical behind the scenes. ainsley: dan, you mentioned, where are they taking this? [inaudible] >> tell us. >> a firearms training facility...

They certainly contain all the components necessary for a bomb. we heard the police commissioner say explosive device and other law enforcement. as they look, and this really will be up to the fbi, bomb techs and the lab as they go through it along with the nypd bomb squad they're going to examine to see if they were actually operational. none of them, as you said, exploded and they contained all of the ingredients. >> that's key. there was a question of, were these fakes or a prank? we do know there were the components necessary to make an explosive in there. this wasn't just a fake, right? >...

They certainly contain all the components necessary for a bomb. we heard the police commissioner say explosive device and other law enforcement. as they look, and this really will be up to the fbi, bomb techs and the lab as they go through it along with the nypd bomb squad they're going to examine to see if they were actually operational. none of them, as you said, exploded and they contained all of the ingredients. >> that's key. there was a question of, were these fakes or a prank? we do know there were the components necessary to make an explosive in there. this wasn't just a fake, right? >...