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Going. obviously there is more smoke. or the president's personal lawyer denying the president had any knowledge of this meeting, but there is frustration among some allies of the president that they went out there on a sunday morning and said the president didn't do anything wrong, this is just about adoption and then yesterday afternoon, donald trump, jr., putting out the second statement saying the pretext of the meeting was that they were talking about dirt on hillary clinton. there are questions being raised by the nature of the fact that the story from the administration and from donald ...

It is what he did legal or not? >> i say absolutely not legal, here is why. it was considered property of the government, they were made following meetings he had with the president of the united states. these are not dear diary notations he was making out lunch, these were obviously government property. the second question is did they contain classified information and if the answer is yes, he committed a crime. >> julie: you had conversations with the president of the united states, you cannot possibly call these memos personal information. at this point, what makes him believe is the former...

>> he wants you and i and your viewers to believe that, but the truth of the matter is, this was political leverage to get back at president trump, he released this information to initiate a special prosecutor being appointed to go after donald trump. in my mind, i look at this, i say this is more like playground politics. he has now resorted to acting in a juvenile matter. he is now saying i'm going to get back at you. but i have news for former director of comey. there is an fbi policy that every director, every agent has to sign. within that agreement, they say that they will not release an...

With a jared kushner or the president's son if it wasn't about the campaign in russia policy. obviously they were trying to influence one of the candidates, the leading candidate at that time on the republican ticket. >> the meeting -- he did not know the name of the person who was coming, he knew the person who set it up. somebody he knew from the miss universe pageant, he goes to the meeting, he says it was vague, ambiguous, very obvious there was no helpful information. and that the meeting quickly turned over to the matter of russian adoption which is probably the pretext of the entire mee...

Information and use it. if the only conceivable violation would be if they accepted some information and it was somehow construed to be a political contribution in kind that is not money but something of value and they used it. arguably that is a violation of the federal campaign election act. however, it is a simple penalty, not a prosecutable crime unless there is some sort of money laundering or embezzlement. >> julie: the woman they met with apparently knew the trumps and the acquaintance was met through the miss universe pageant. apparently donald trump, jr., and president trump both had ...