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No cheer trend. how could you not have a strong opinion already about donald trump? even though this is bombshell information. how could you, if this is something you care about, how could you not have formed a negative view about him? in a large way, this election, and people's attitudes are baking the cake. i think the thing for democrats is the very first numbers were during the efforts to repeal the health care law. so that's a good thing to remind people about. but everyone is very aware of what donald trump's extremely crooked connections and this gives us more details about it. did you ...

Know, mr. picker being granted immunity is another very bad sign for the president because immunity is being granted for one of three reasons. either david pecker having a privilege against self-incrimination can perhaps provide incriminating information about the president or he can provide corroborating information about the story michael corner has provided or my money's on number three which is both. so again, i think this is another sort of difficult development for the president. >> we should say that picker ran ami as essentially a sort of adjunct almost to the trump campaign. these are...

Saw fit to apply for that exception. then the deputy attorney general would have to make a decision. to answer your question, you know, mr. picker being granted immunity is another very bad sign for the president because immunity is being granted for one of three reasons. either david pecker having a privilege against self-incrimination can perhaps provide incriminating information about the president or he can provide corroborating information about the story michael corner has provided or my money's on number three which is both. so again, i think this is another sort of difficult developmen...

Nationalized along two major coalitions in the country. it becomes harder and harder to distinguish yourself away from what's happening at the white house. >> right. i do think that at some point, donald trump does have, he has a floor and a ceiling. so there's a certain cross section of the country that will support him no matter what he says or does. and we know who he is. at this point. so there's no real shocking information that will break, that will cause people the rip their hair out and say, reconsider. what we do have to think about is what will motivate people at the polls and gettin...

The trump camp. do you see, joyce, what do you see next in this sdny part of the story? >> the sdny part of the story still has a lot of room left to grow because one of the most interesting aspects of this story now that it involves david pecker is this vault full of information he had. hard to believe he had a vault full of information that didn't come into play in other areas. and so we'll see whether this story branches out. it's interesting to remember that the original john edwards stories were tabloid stories. and that grew of course, into that prosecution. there could be a lot more her...