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Well being of the people they may shoot. which only adds to the stigma as you indicated. >> and also we want to place the blame on something else other than the obvious, as you said, the most significant characteristic of this man was the guns and that's it. >> and the blame is on cruz. >> and the blame. >> and i want we want to -- the governor wants to blame folks in law enforcement. and it's unfortunate that the word didn't get through. but the real culprit here is the person who pulled the trigger. >> thank you so much. i appreciate it. james allen fox. >> any time. >> when we come back all...

He name checked and called out harvey weinstein, kevin spacey, woody allen. these were guys who were revered at the golden globes in the past. and now are persona non grata. >> all right, rebecca sun, always great to talk with you. appreciate it. >> thanks. >> still ahead, one of the u.s. president's top advisers comes to cnn to defend his boss from the bombshell new book. >> and it got tense. the details coming your way in just a moment.

>> the settling of scores can make some things possible. bannon still believes in trump, believes in the agenda and thinks he is being terribly served by his family and in-laws, his sons, as well as others around him. i'm sure scaramucci it has been revealed going back months is engaged in score settling as well. that's part of the dysfunction that we have a ringside seat to. >> yeah. but know your audience. how self destructive do you have to be to go after the president's children? >> if you don't like those guys at the time, remember context, right? he is talking to michael wolff at a time ...

One to run for president. the first woman president, ivanka entertained, would not be hillary clinton. it would be ivanka trump. that sounds fantastical, david. interesting, but i don't know what to do with that. >> it is indication of an incredible atmosphere of presumption of the family, but we knew that. >> who know back seat that. but to me it goes to the point that you have this ambitious circle and no check on it. there's no sense of what would be the appropriate way to move forward if her father actually won the presidency. the fact that he hired his children i think was a huge mistake....

Book, there will be money laundering. what do you think about that? >> it's important to delineate different points of the investigations going on. clearly they looked into the financial transactions of paul ma manafort, that's one of the things he was indicted for, and that's a subject. on our side in the senate intelligence committee, we are more focussed on what did the russians do and how did they do it? most importantly, how do we prevent them from doing it the next time. are their relationships between the russians and the trump campaign and leading up to the election. i don't think mone...