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One to run for president. the first woman president, ivanka entertained, would not be hillary clinton. it would be ivanka trump. that sounds fantastical, david. interesting, but i don't know what to do with that. >> it is indication of an incredible atmosphere of presumption of the family, but we knew that. >> who know back seat that. but to me it goes to the point that you have this ambitious circle and no check on it. there's no sense of what would be the appropriate way to move forward if her father actually won the presidency. the fact that he hired his children i think was a huge mistake....

Nobody ever disputed it except him. >> the popular voted matters to him. it's okay. it's okay for it to burn his butt that he lost. he can grow his base and win by a lot more the next time. this is a great window into what you're dealing with as donald trump as a man. it is important to analyze it. there has to be always a little bit of truth. >> it is a small case. >> the de minimis cases plants in people's mind, i knew this thing. i heard this story. this person is dead that still vote stpwhrd there is . >> why does it matter? he is undermining the pillar of

They fought hard that the commission not see their records or methods because they know that many people are voting illegally. system is rigged, must go to voter i.d. as americans, you need identification sometimes in a strong and accurate form. as opposed to what kind of identification? for almost everything you he do except when it comes for the most important thing, voting for the people that run your country. push hard for voter identification! back with us john avlon and gregory. gregory, the last part, have the argument. legitimate issue. a very strong reason people push to have voter i....

In the election that did not happen. that's why they didn't want to comply. >> right. because incident was a waste of time. an abuse of government resources and time. this is a joke. the president saying there's vote isser i.d. problems and voter fraud. he is the same person that said barack obama wasn't born in this country. let's stop paying attention to this. he did a big to-do and it went nowhere because there was nothing to it. he ought to look at voter disenfranchisement. get people voting. he made a big claim, used the power of the presidency to do it, and came up with nothing. republic...

Were dirty going to that meeting and that was a problem. that is what he was quoting as saying. he hasn't denied the quote. you can't have it both ways, john. >> not really. not in an environment like the trump family. >> they may not let him have it both ways. but he can say he supports the president. the president is a great man. and then the other part. >> he is using unvarnished legend, calling the language treasonist. he may try to have it both ways, but it won't work with the base. the core of the base will stick by president trump even if, as he says, he shot someone on 5th avenue. >> h...