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Agents or soldiers than the entire israeli army by some counts than the entire army of great britain. and they are going to be told to go forth with or without guns and raise money. i don't think you have to strain to connect the dots. >> harris: i had not seen those size comparisons. when you look at the talk about americans and the second amendment you and i could go round and round on this for an hour. but we can't today. i will bring you back. thank you very much. i will ask you to please stick with me for one second. i want to get your reaction to this. brand-new details on the unpreceden...

Should be focused on tonight's, is the confirmation that federal prosecutors are looking at donald trump's role in what was a scheme, a conspiracy, to interfere with certification of the election. >> now just as allies, not just his, team but donald trump himself, his role. phil, explain this to us. your colleagues at the polls are reporting that the investigation is moving along to separate tracks. what are they? >> well, stephanie, there are two separate tracks but it is unclear according to our reporting, exactly whether any charges could be brought. it still is an early stages of this inve...

Reporting tonight, the justice department justice january six investigation is actively looking into trump's actions. joining now is carol leonnig, investigative reporter at their washington post, who is the lead on this piece of bombshell reporting tonight. carol, thank you for being with us tonight. i'm sure it's been a very busy day. your poor reporting says the doj is investigating trump's actions as part of its criminal probe into the attempt to overturn the election. it's clearly not something that happens overnight. can you walk us through your reporting on how this particular angle on ...

Lawyer, that his game was not actually legal. so you have all of these attorneys who were trying to put together this game to steal an election, that they knew was not legal, and if i were any one of them, i would be very worried about the granbury looking at my behavior next. >> me too. joyce, matt, ryan, phil, don't go anywhere, this news is too big to leave there. after the break, we are gonna talk about the political fallout from tonight's bombshell reporting, what it means for the former president and his party moving forward. and later, the current president could be on the verge of even...

The conduct of donald trump. >> let's talk about covering ones tracks before we go. matt, what do you make of this new reporting from the new york times. that trump campaign officials, some of whom were lawyers, actually put their fake elector schemes in writing? >> i think it tells you, first of, all that those are lawyers who would never want to hire to represent you. and the second thing, >> might not be lorries much longer. >> yeah, that's right, it is again revealing about the behavior by all of the people involved at the scheme who all throughout, were incredibly reckless about the facts...