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I said it's because i'm a neurosurgeon. when i take someone to the operating room and i shave their head and i open the scalp and take off bone flap, i am then operating on the thing that makes that person who they are. the skin has very little with who that person is. and it's something that we have just allowed to define us and it really has very little to do with who a person is. >> i agree with dr. carson. we should look beyond the color of the skin and the only place we differ is i believe that the way to get there is to actually do away with this myth that we can be color blind. we have ...

You can't check brown or light brown or brown but french. you can't do that. >> that is exactly the point. these categories, dr. carson, are reductive in some ways. the point you make in these book is identities end up being divisive and actually liberals see these identities as being produced in reaction to white racism and bigotry and i think your argument is these identities are contrived by liberals. >> i was asked why don't you talk about race. i said it's because i'm a neurosurgeon. when i take someone to the operating room and i shave their head and i open the scalp and take off bone fl...

Liberals. >> i was asked why don't you talk about race. i said it's because i'm a neurosurgeon. when i take someone to the operating room and i shave their head and i open the scalp and take off bone flap, i am then operating on the thing that makes that person who they are. the skin has very little with who that person is. and it's something that we have just allowed to define us and it really has very little to do with who a person is. >> i agree with dr. carson. we should look beyond the color of the skin and the only place we differ is i believe that the way to get there is to actually do ...

G.o.p. win from the moderate part of the spectrum? >> bob: let me make a point about rand paul. he is now going to iowa, always the first step. he has also hired some very good and interesting consultants, presidential level consultants. it take it to me he is getting serious. >> dana: oh, no. not consultants! i thought they were you know what under the sun. >> bob: some of them are good. this is interesting to me. >> eric: listen to dr. carson at cpac. talk about racism and race. a very refreshing take on this. listen. >> you know, reporter once asked me why i didn't talk a lot about race. i ...

G.o.p. win from the moderate part of the spectrum? >> bob: let me make a point about rand paul. he is now going to iowa, always the first step. he has also hired some very good and interesting consultants, presidential level consultants. it take it to me he is getting serious. >> dana: oh, no. not consultants! i thought they were you know what under the sun. >> bob: some of them are good. this is interesting to me. >> eric: listen to dr. carson at cpac. talk about racism and race. a very refreshing take on this. listen. >> you know, reporter once asked me why i didn't talk a lot about race. i ...