Then you call people in the west wing and say, what is he going to do? here's estimates from the state. double-digit jumps in proceed yums without the subsidy. you'll see a couple battlegrounds on here. with the subsidy for pennsylvania, 8.8. 20.3% without subsidies. you can see what this does to your premiums as far as hikes. that's actually money in people's pocketbooks. >> yeah, i guess it depends philosophically on what you want out of health care. for the people who want to be able to pay sort of lower costs for very bare bone plans, this is a step in that direction. but for the people wh...