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See the benefit for themselves if they see it. what do you make of where this is going and how it changes the environment this year? >> i don't think, you can't rail against the short-term benefits of a tax cut even if it is heavily trick en down so to say as a liberal would say. the bottom line is people everyone gets benefits they're seeing benefits and seeing economy pick up and seeing bonus checks but to criticize that is a very trickle down thing i think it's a weak argument and frankly, the average worker under a thousand that john talked to already got tax cuts under george bush that we...

Anecdotes like that. but $90 billion of this tax stuff has gone into buybacks and the outshoring has gone out and the wage growth is flatter than it was. you are doing a very good job of picking anecdotes. my mom used to tell me, a half truth is a whole lie. we are not telling the whole story. >> 5 million americans are getting bonus checks. that is not an anecdote. money in their pocket. >> 80% are not. >> i will go in the van with you. >> you guys said we would get wage increase. one time bonuses that is not wage increase. >> we are seeing huge changes. >> let's focus -- >> let's focus on to...

>> chris, you know what's interesting about the point that you raised? isn't that true. african-americans wanted president obama to do more. do you know why he didn't do more? because he had to walk on eggshells because whenever he did anything to help the african-american community, republicans attacked him. >> somebody said this. the president -- this president just passed an incredible tax reform in congress, right? there are 5 million individuals got nice bonus checks. from their employers. i'm guessing a good deal of those were african americans. so he did some good there. there are ameri...

Just passed an incredible tax reform in congress, right? there are 5 million individuals got nice bonus checks. i'm guessing some were african-americans, so he did a nice thing there. millionaires' taxes will go significantly down. apple and many other companies announced they will invest in new plants, new infrastructure in america which will help african-americans. to say the president isn't helping african-americans, he's helping all americans, which is what we want to see here. >> i gave him credit and i give him credit. you better watch my show, but i will say that i gave him credit and i...

Most americans try to be fair and try to understand both sides of the story. democrats want one thing. republicans want something else. this is called negotiating. but what it looks like to me when you hear nancy pelosi or hear these democrats, they are whining about the crumbs, these bonuses are crumbs. they are saying well, these bonus checks are getting taxed. well, guess what? that's because you all like the taxes. and you have implemented all these taxes. but it's extra money for americans that are hurting that need to pay bills that are in debt. so they are whining about that. they are w...