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>> they said they spoke once by the phone for a few minutes but not about the book. they had a very short conversation. he never interviewed the president about the book. he repeatedly begged to speak with the president and was denied access. this is a guy who made up a lot of stories to try to sell books and i think more and more people are starting to see that his facts simply don't add up. >> bill: the white house was quick to react there. sarah sanders calling out the author, michael wolff. the book is called "fire and fury" saying much of the details in that book are simply made up. that'...

So do you have any questions or interest in the book? >> i haven't read the press release in a book. that's normally how i read a book interview. >> so, it is fascinating, looking at barack obama over the past couple years. it's obvious he and bill clinton had serious issues in 2008. bill clinton would tell people without them having to ask him for the first two years of the obama presidency, the guy's never asked me anything about health care or this or that. you just heard that. bill clinton complained about it. yet, when barack obama pushed to the wall, he picked up the phone and said i pro...

defended a controversial $535 million government loan to a california solar panel company that eventually went belly up. the solyndra drama continues. >> reporter: continues, and will for some time. the president when asked about that, jonathan silver, the man who has been heading up the loan program, which, of course, is the controversial part of this program, because of a guaranteed loan that was given to that solar panel company that president obama visited, and that went belly up in august, that's really what all of this stems around. well, he has resigned, and to listen to the d...

States for the next go round given what's passed so far. john, there is new audio from, from the reporters, care lennie and phil rucker who interviewed him for the fantastic new book. i want you to listen. first you'll hear biden talking about the reality of the insurrection on january 6th and then you'll hear audio from this book interview of how trump saw it. >> i don't care if you think i'm satan reincarnated. the fact is you can't look at that television and say, nothing happened on the 6th. you can't listen to people who say, this was a peaceful march. >> it was a loving crowd, too, by ...

The end of february. well, who comes next? we don't know. >> and one person who knows the inside story is greg burke. i think we have you on the lean now. the vatican spokesman, greg burke. greg, tell us the back story of this, when you first knew that the pope was even considering taking this momentous step. >> well, all of us knew, but none of us paid a lot of attention two years ago when the pope mentioned in a long interview -- there was a book interview "light of the world" and he mentioned that "pope could resign. he said he hadn't thought about doing it in the moment. it was a very diff...