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People that spoke to the fbi. let's show the american people it means something. >> tucker: it's a fair point. senator, thank you for talking to us tonight. >> thank you, tucker. >> tucker: one quick message for you. bob woodward has been a famous guy for close to 50 years in journalism. he tormented the washington establishment famously during watergate and then he joined the other team. he's permanent washington's court historians and tells stories and promotes causes. in return, his books go to the top of the best seller list. that's where he is now. it's frustrating to watch. but there's s...

People that spoke to the fbi. let's show the american people it means something. >> tucker: it's a fair point. senator, thank you for talking to us tonight. >> thank you, tucker. >> tucker: one quick message for you. bob woodward has been a famous guy for close to 50 years in journalism. he tormented the washington establishment famously during watergate and then he joined the other team. he's permanent washington's court historians and tells stories and promotes causes. in return, his books go to the top of the best seller list. that's where he is now. it's frustrating to watch. but there's s...

It turned deadly because, as this book points out for the first time, jack platt was the man who brought back the file that proved that robert hanson was the mole, the fbi agent who turned mole. the russians ended up blaming his friendship wrongly with vasolenko and it landed him in a russian prison. >> dana: basically, it's about human intelligence. is there any lessons from the book that you learn that could be applied to today? >> well, yes. one of the lines we use is jack platt's boss said it is the job of the cia to break the laws of the countries where they operate. that tells you a lot....

Your honor. >> a couple points, your book points out how intermeshed he was with all things trump and the family. football two, he defined himself based on his job for donald trump. he thought he might parlay it to a white house job. he wore it every day like an outer garment. and is it simplistic or too scorceseian to say she watching other deals, other developments and says i know the guy very well and was his lawyer a long time. >> he has raised his hands saying, hey, come talk to me, i'm willing to tell you everything that i could possibly tell you that would be useful to you. i don't know...

Legal jeopardy that he tried to avoid by pleading guilty. financially he is incredibly squeezed. he is now staring down what could be years in prison should the judge sentence him to that in december. it is just a real stunning turn. >> a couple of points. your book points out how intermeshed he was with all things trump and the family. he defined himself based on his job for donald trump, thought he might parlay it to a white house job. he wore it every day like an outer garment. is it simplestic to think that he is watching other deals and developments and wants to raise his hand and say i k...