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Control the narrative by having to sort of fact check in real time? it's quite challenging. as a journalist, i think the best we can do is go out there and say what the truth is. and when it's relevant to fact check in real time, do it, but otherwise, tell americans what the real story is. >> but jim, that really is kind of the crux of the debate, and you're working on a book writ large on this subject now. do we spend all our time fact checking a president who lies 20 times a day, and does it make us, as jack schaefer from politico said, the president the assignment editor for newsrooms acros...

A new book writ been you as well that talks about how that sort of experience about when your parents came to the united states. it has been a good experience for you personally because you went back and looked at your family. >> i knew the story. i didn't know the dates. it has been a blessing in disguise. as part of the book and part of that scrutiny i went back and found ought as much as i could. when you go back and can look at your parents. you realize they were once my age and that really comes alive when you review the documents and application to come to the u.s. and things of that nat...

A new book writ been you as well that talks about how that sort of experience about when your parents came to the united states. it has been a good experience for you personally because you went back and looked at your family. >> i knew the story. i didn't know the dates. it has been a blessing in disguise. as part of the book and part of that scrutiny i went back and found ought as much as i could. when you go back and can look at your parents. you realize they were once my age and that really comes alive when you review the documents and application to come to the u.s. and things of that nat...