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It will never happen at united ever again. i promise you that. i know from experience. it will get resolved. you know, some good will come out of it for future passengers. >> once this man gets out of the hospital, some financial goodwill probably come from his. he will probably sue. if united has a brain, it will settle. the ceo said this morning, i'll never use those police officials again to take somebody off the plane. is that part of the lesson here? you can't take someone off by force if they bought a ticket legitimately and you have a booking problem on your plane. >> absolutely. that's...

Control and local issues at the state levels, not just the primary states. this is full contact politics. if you can't go into their arena, make your arguments, make strong arguments and, look, if they want to try and slice and dice, refute them with the facts. bill: so you don't have a problem with this, is that what you're saying? >> no, i think it's a foolish assumption, or a foolish proposal -- bill: i've got you. let me get tamara on the record for this as well. >> i think maybe there was a booking problem here, because i'm shocked that david webb and i actually agree on something. >> tha...