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Strangeness? it's unfolded in such a strange fashion i can't figure out what's going on. >> that's a great point. it's about pulling yourself up by your boot straps, going up against everything against you. that's why there is a lot of popularity and support around carson and why people are rallying around him. despite all of the odd and particulars here and there. >> that explains why you have this weird situation for about 48 hours in which the knock on the candidate was that he was not a violent young man. >> right. >> he had not hit his moth were a hammer and had not stabbed

What's going on. >> that's a great point. it's about pulling yourself up by your boot straps, going up against everything against you. that's why there is a lot of popularity and support around carson and why people are rallying around him. despite all of the odd and particulars here and there. >> that explains why you have this weird situation for about 48 hours in which the knock on the candidate was that he was not a violent young man. >> right. >> he had not hit his moth were a hammer and had not stabbed someone with a knife and the campaign was like, no, he absolutely hit his mother with ...

Pressures. he uses this as a redemption story. that story resonates with people who are believers. they are people who understand why he talks about his sinful past and how he was redeemed. donald trump should not mock that. that is not going to help him. >> in many people's minds that's the american dream for someone to pick themselves up by the boot straps and make it. >> how do candidates do among all americans. carson has a much more higher favorable rating than donald trump on this particular poll. simon, what do you think of that? >> well, i'm not surprised. one of the things i want to s...

Does he talk too much about pulling one's self up by his or her boot straps while ignoring institutionalized racism? >> well, no and no. it's his story. although we have to question whether or not his story is authentic or not. the reality is he did pull himself up by the boot straps. that part we know. he grew up in a very poor area of detroit and his mom worked one or two jobs to put him through the adolescent years of his life. that's okay. that's his story. no matter whether you are black or whether you are asian or white, he has the right to tell his story the way he thinks it should be t...

And chose not to go. that's a different story. >> you are talking about donald trump. he plays into his brand every time he makes an insult. he is confirming that narrative, that story. this runs counter to all of ben carson's back story, this idea that he came from nothing and was up from the boot straps and had this violent past. >> he sold this as part of his story. >> and so if that turns out to not be true and start to question pieces of this over time and there is evidence that he made things up, that is going to be a real problem for him. >> what did he in mean where you know how you st...