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States called the house bill mean. he called this senate bill which no one has seen, maybe they got him a bootleg copy, looking heart. how do you make people do something they don't want -- people don't want to give up -- frankly, this involves people's lives and their kids' lives. >> i love our president now. with legislation. it's mean, silly, goofy. this is the way he describes things. i don't understand why they're trying to do it. you can't win with health care. it's a losing proposition. either well to do people help those that need it get it or those who need it don't get it. you can't ...

I don't remember anything like this. it certainly is a wake up call for the rest of the industry and the rest of the united states that all these computers are vulnerable if they are on the internet you can get in them. especially when a state is behind it. probably north korea. >> we talk about how this was a cyber attack but, michael, the ramifications are very real. should the response on the part of the u.s. be real? in other words should there be some sort of military strike? >> they are going hack you so you bomb them >> this is the debate. each one is considered an attack on a nation. >...