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In the first year wiand it goes down in a time span, but does that argument have traction, or is this something that greg abbett is saying, not even in the realm of the possible? >> if you keep hearing the rhetoric and the vilification of the affordable care act, you might say in a state like texas, no, people are going to think obamacare is bad. but it's not. it was a bad decision not to expand medicaid. it was a bad decision to say no to that many jobs. and if any other comments that i'm getting on that leticia van de putte website are any indication, people are getting it. they know that pe...

Rhetoric and the vilification of the affordable care act, you might say in a state like texas, no, people are going to think obamacare is bad. but it's not. it was a bad decision not to expand medicaid. it was a bad decision to say no to that many jobs. and if any other comments that i'm getting on that leticia van de putte website are any indication, people are getting it. they know that people are finding a way and asking, why can't texas? >> in a state like texas, i've got to imagine that the eligibility is pretty low already. how poor do you have to be to get medicaid in a state like texas...

Texas and that texas has -- is just friendlier to business than other states, because of that less regulation. is he right? >> texas has always been a state that has been blessed with natural resources, and generation after generation, we have made the best of oil and gas. >> mm-hmm. >> yes, it's partly that atmosphere that is so texan about hard work and entrepreneurship and you pull yourself up from your own bootstraps mentality. but it's also understanding when neighbor needs to help neighbor. let's face it, that almost $14 billion the economists will say will be in our rainy day fund, that...