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You could argue that if you're trump, when you have sort of not traditional conservative views, for instance on health care. he doubled down on it before in some form or another recently. maybe he would be more comfortable being able to run as a third-party candidate. immigration would be obviously would be what he would draw. he could draw voters away from republicans. there's something about this alex. i can't envision trump being able to sustain this sort of level of media attention. level of -- of political showmanship for another 15 months which is what he would have to do. i just can't i...

>> we welcome and we disagree with him but we'll welcome him. we'll show him the respect even though we strongly disagree with his harsh words. >> well, msnbc host of the "rundown" is on the border there in laredo, texas. jose joins me on the show after doing his show from there this morning. explain the latest you're hearing about this event and why donald trump is coming to laredo. >> well, listen, alex good afternoon. as a matter of fact, i am looking at the rio grand as we speak. i'm right at the border between the united states and mexico. and it's very close to laredo. you know, wanted t...

There's already a majority of congress against it, he doesn't know that. so let's give this a chance and let's see exactly what the agreement does and do we feel it makes the world a safer place? >> well, ma'am, you must be aware that this kind of news and information gets out there. i'm curious about the message that is sent to iran to our world allies those who helped negotiate this deal if our congress cannot agree on a deal that has been done? >> well, the congress hasn't even voted on this. this is the first day. and if you watch these marings and you probably couldn't because you were do...

It's interesting you mention texas governor rick perry. that was somebody until recently was actually on trump's good side. it seems to have switched in the last couple days. perry has taken it upon himself to be the main voice speaking out against trump. the law enforcement officials down here are struggling because the federal government is not doing its job in protecting the border alex. >> of course. i think the reason there's this at this time for at that time going on is because they're really slinging insults at one another. when rick perry is getting words said about him, he's stupid s...

Invited the latino population to vote for him in the u.s. >> alex love him or hate him, donald trump is a master show man. the fact that you're going to pick up what he says live at 3:00 no other candidate can get that kind of treatment. he is a -- someone who -- wonderful at manipulating the media. i'm not a big donald trump fan but i do admire his ability as a showman. won't make a very good president but he's very good at marketing himself. >> okay. rick perry certainly lashed out at him yesterday afternoon. i want to play you a portion of what he said. get your reaction. >> let no one be m...