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Says wall, oftentimes frankly john kelly said he'll say barrier or fencing, now he's tended towards steel slats. a lot of people are trying to understand the language that is being used here. the president said himself that he wanted a wall, a fence, whatever they would like to call it, referencing democrats, i'll call it whatever they want. when asked about the $5 billion figure this week, this past week, he said it's complicated, whether he was willing to come off of that number. i'm just asking the question, do you think there's more room for negotiation with this president than most people...

Statistics that a number of women are saying they're being assaulted. a number of people are saying they're being assaulted. the number of children and family units that our customs and border patrol are being asked to absorb is overwhelming the system. we have a congress that failed to close a loophole. they could close the loophole and not close the border. sandra: it sounds like there's room for compromise on the part of president trump. when i hear language from you, rather than talking about a fence or other border measures, john kellly was interviewed by the l.a. times and made a bit of ...

It's just a statement at this point. saying the democrats decided to go home, the only rational conclusion is that the democratic party is openly choosing to keep our government closed to protect illegal i wm t immigrants rather than the american people." democrats went home. donald trump stayed in washington. maybe it's a degree of who's playing more politics but the democrats are playing politics as well. do you see there -- if people really wanted to get to a polla of yes, they could, other than waiting for the president to get to, i give up. >> it they could get to a place of yes. back in ...

How the country works and how americans per seif tceive the j department, that's how this one got so high up on the list. >> here's one the most timely and notable. notable. the president said on fox news in 2018, we are building the wall as we speak. he tweeted monday night, we are building and renovating many miles of wall and some complete. t this is the nbc fact check that you provide. government currently replacing and repairing old fencing, but new border fencing is has not begun. >> where did you rank this? >> it is number one and the falsehood that has defined our entire year, because ...

Arguing policy, i'm arguing tactics. lawrence lawrence they tried it before and it didn't get done. the president offered how many? 1.8. they still turned it down. they tried that tactic before. they didn't get it passed. it's going to go either the wall or nothing. the president is going to take that hard line. >> dana: one on the communications standpoint. the president and the democrats are in impasse. how do you break an impasse. he is the one that can do something different. i think he needs to show, not tell or show not tweet. so i would let other people do the talking for me. so he has ...