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>> dick wants open borders, chris. you know that. the fact is we allowed the bush administration to be able to hide this issue from their buddies. but if the democrats aren't willing to take on the big employers exploiting these people and impacting the poor across this country who is going to take on the lawyers? >> let me try that by congressman becerra. is it true whatever deal you are going to get through a majority of americans, 60% of the senate, a majority in the house to get something done will have to include some kind of employee i.d.? >> yes. i agree. >> so you both agree on that pr...

Outlying areas, always been somewhat connected. afghanistan is a real country. it's not a figment of western imagination, but the idea that he's going to have federal control over the entire country is something that would be historically unprecedented here, and i think if we're aiming for that as success, we're going to be probably left wanting. >> let me ask you a moral question. this is a tough one. what right do we have as an outside force to decide which force in afghanistan prevails? i mean, we may not like the pashtun people but they include a lot of taliban. there's a lot of taliban ju...

>> if he goes was immigration and really sticks it and says we're going to let those people stay here and fights for it, even if he fails, joan, does that say he's heading for history or what's that tell you? >> these are tough questions because there's such a great political upside to him saying that and that is the latino vote. i saw karen finney, my friend squirm around on this. but again, he could be doing good politics and also believe he's doing good policy and it adds up to the same thing. i don't mean to be wishy washy here. >> it's a tough one. that is why i'm asking the heavyweights....

That's still nearly ten years later the justification for what we're doing here, and you hear people harken back to that. that's not something that's lost in the distance. the problem is that there's an argument going on here for the afghan people. there's an argument from the taliban. there is something that they are offering. it's the same thing they were offering when they came to power in 1994. we are not corrupt and we are of you. the afghan government, on the other hand, is offering, yeah, we're sort of corrupt, but wouldn't you rather have us than the taliban because the taliban are rea...

And the accountability frames, about the responsibility and accountability of people who hire illegal immigrants and needing to hold those people accountable. >> on that question -- >> and the reality, chris, you've got 12 million people here. there's a practical reality about what we'll do with them. >> let me give you a practical question, one answer, yes or no. should this compromise the democrats' push for include a checkable id card? yes or no? >> maybe. >> what? >> that is exactly the problem. todd, your witness. that's exactly why the democrats will not win on this issue no, guts, no ca...