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Behind a wall saying it's peaceful. because there's a wall. think about that, right? the irony there. i think that's exactly why i'm speaking out, is that in 2006, you talked about it, we know, the fence act, the wall act, whatever you call it, what happened? is it the size and the height of the barrier that makes it immoral? that's what is disgusting for me. is that in 2005 and 2006 they made arguments on both sides of the aisle why the wall was needed and enhanced border security was needed. those same arguments and facts are being made exactly the same by this current president. >> laura: i...

Peaceful. because there's a wall. think about that, right? the irony there. i think that's exactly why i'm speaking out, is that in 2006, you talked about it, we know, the fence act, the wall act, whatever you call it, what happened? is it the size and the height of the barrier that makes it immoral? that's what is disgusting for me. is that in 2005 and 2006 they made arguments on both sides of the aisle why the wall was needed and enhanced border security was needed. those same arguments and facts are being made exactly the same by this current president. >> laura: it's political, it's 2020, ...