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Generals, but what about this surprise visit the president took to iraq when he visited the troops for the first time? it's been criticized for a trip that politicized the military. what do you think, chris? >> i'm glad he went, it was long overdue. but take one of these trips to visit the troops is about the easiest thing you can do. you go up there, read remarks honoring troops for their service, take some photos and fly out. the fact that they couldn't execute this simple process i think is troubling on so many levels. on a broader issue, this constant politicization of the military, which ...

Includes $1.3 billion for border/barrier construction simply must be con connected jekd. >> the key for democrats, schumer, pelosi and their caucuses is to frame this not as a border wall but for border security. constructing a -- let's be generous, a 17th century wall makes no sense at this point. we have 21st century technology. as well as democrats stand firm that we're willing to give you money but not for a wall, i think they win this issue. >> if the president doesn't get funding for his border wall, does he shift blame from democrats to republican lawmakers? >> he'll try, but i think hi...

What about humanizing this issue? do the recent deaths of children at the border make this harder for trump politically? do you think -- they are behind him this idea of the wall. however, his base is not a majority of this country. when you look at the polling around the idea of a wall, it's a very easy concept, support for the wall has never really risen above 40%, whereas the opposition to the wall has gone as high as 57%. so most of the country doesn't want it. the fact that this is such app easy-to-understand issue i think bodes very ill for the president. >> this is also a very nuanced i...

On, this is going to be a drip, drip, drip that is going to continue to erode the support for him. doesn't forget, these 800,000 workers are in all 50 states and all congressional districts. >> it's interesting you say he's being boxed in. rick, president trump says the republicans had the issue when it cops to border security. is he really playing the long game for 2020 by standing firm on this? will this allow him to get out of that box? >> one thing people don't talk about in this poll is the blame on republicans is at 7%. so it's almost none because they were given a choice between blaming...

Americans blame the president for this shutdown. the president, however, is sticking to his strategy tweeting this week that, quote, this is only about the dems not letting donald trump and the republicans have a win. they may have the ten senate votes but we have the issue, border security 2020. so to talk about the issue for 2020, we have chris lew, former assistant to president obama, rick tyler, political analyst and who is responsible for ending this shutdown? >> both side are responsible. the challenge is both sides have dug in their heels right now. that's driven not only by the policy ...