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>> that was his whole campaign promise and the reason he got elected. >> but how does he know the people who are suffering through this shutdown agree with him? what evidence is there that all of these people -- he said i really believe these people agree with him, that they agree with what he's doing? >> i think americans want to be kept safe and as i said 89% of border security agents say it's going to help with our national security. we're having huge problems because not only is this a national issue but a domestic security issue. ms 13 gang members commit heinous crimes in this country. >...

So we just heard -- i want to ask you a question off of what amy was saying there. how long do you think the gop can support president trump in this before congressman and women in the gop are saying look, my constituents aren't going to take this much longer? >> when you're negotiating a deal, you can't tell the other side when you're going to finish negotiating because they would know when it's over and when you cave. so i think the president and it the gop have to hang strong in this endeavor. >> for the sake of their constituents? do you think gop' is going to -- >> it's a matter of nation...

Situational awareness. you have to see what's on the other side. a wall stretching from coast to coast, all that gets you is a tunnel underneath or a ladder over top. that is what john kelly was speaking to and that interview he gave the l.a. times. it's not clear what president trump wants. until that's clear, the shutdown drags on. >> eli, republicans never wanted this wall. when donald trump first introduced it as a campaign issue, there were a lot of eyes that rolled and a lot of folks on both sides saying that will never happen. it's a ridiculous idea. it's unnecessary. it's not the most ...

Us. they need more willingness to enforce the law as it exists today. >> does he have a point? >> we become more informed over time. i also know a recent poll of border security agents showed that 95% of them agreed that more physical barriers would assist in the performance of their duties. this isn't an either or. we can have an all of the above strategy. but democrats keep voting against all things that we hope will keep the country safer like sanctuary city reform, like ending chain migration. >> in february when the democrats came forward and said we will give you $25 billion for border s...

Security. they want to see something happen on border security. >> so now president trump says democrats won't pay for border security, substituting that term for a border wall. border security and a complete border wall are not the same thing. here's the kind of border security democrats have already supported. in 2013, senator schumer and house minority leader, nancy pelosi, both were in favor of spending $40 billion on a border security plan that called for building 700 miles of new fencing, and would have doubled the number of border security agents to roughly 40,000. it got bipartisan sup...