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What do you say and mitch mcconnell will say, ugh, ugh, i don't know what he'll say. it doesn't make sense politically. it doesn't make sense substantively. it's really not of this world. it's not grounded in reality. >> do republicans feel the way that jennifer feels that there is a no win scenario for them? that the president is handing nancy pe losi a premature victory. here is what senator shelby said. >> it's a question of when do we get off the blame game and get to serious negotiations. at the end of the day all of this will end, we don't know when in negotiations. it's not a question o...

Republicans feel. it is a split between senate and house republicans. senate republicans would like to see a deal. i've found few, if any, who feel the same desire to fight for wall that the president does. they want border security but the idea of wall, specifically, is not something that animates very many senate republicans. they are still in charge in the senate. they have a responsibility to govern. on the house side in the minority, house republicans have the option of being what they have accused democrats of being which is obstructionists. you can come out every day and say all you wan...

Logic. he's motivated by fear in some sense of the ann coulters and rush limbaughs will jump down his throat. he is motivated by his own sense of grand i don't siocity. between scene republicans and sane democrats there isn't that much difference. they have agreed there must be border security. no democrat says i'm in favor of open borders as trump says. there's absolutely a deal to be made. donald trump is president, at least for now. that's why the whole thing becomes dysfunctional. that's why people who live paycheck to paycheck are out of work at the holidays. that's why he will hand nancy...

Situational awareness. you have to see what's on the other side. a wall stretching from coast to coast, all that gets you is a tunnel underneath or a ladder over top. that is what john kelly was speaking to and that interview he gave the l.a. times. it's not clear what president trump wants. until that's clear, the shutdown drags on. >> eli, republicans never wanted this wall. when donald trump first introduced it as a campaign issue, there were a lot of eyes that rolled and a lot of folks on both sides saying that will never happen. it's a ridiculous idea. it's unnecessary. it's not the most ...

Start the look ahead towards 2020, there are plenty of senate republicans up in difficult places who have to start looking like they can be serious adults and who can legislate separate from their president if they want to keep their jobs past the next election. >> eli, has donald trump been talking to anybody on the democratic side? has the deal maker been trying to make a deal? >> the indications i've gotten from the white house is mike pence has had more conversation with senator schumer than the president himself. the president has been tweeting. he has not really been out there beating th...