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Doesn't explain away the whole situation, though, because you still have the president who put that letter in michael cohen's mouth and said he signed it. he knows that he signed it himself. why did they say that? that goes to the p.r. campaign. you would never say things like that if you were worried about winding up in front of a judge or a prosecutor. you would do it if you're worried about how we process it and more importantly, the american people. >> and then michael cohen lied about it for well over a year, and the white house and donald trump let that lie sit out there. >> uh-huh. the ...

They don't have -- the resources. they can't process them. >> i think the only way -- >> a that's the point. >> the only way that we'll ever get comprehensive immigration reform is if american people trust that their border is secure. border security doesn't necessarily call for a wall that extends the entire extension of the border. and, you know what? go read up on el chapo and the tunnels that he dug from mexico -- >> i've been in them. i did a documentary. >> if you think you can't traffic people through tunnels, you are grossly -- >> the overwhelming majority of drugs come through this co...

Happens? more flow through the ports of entry, anna, they're overwhelmed. they don't have places to put these people. they don't have ways to take care of them. they don't have -- >> i think the only way -- >> a that's the point. >> the only way that we'll ever get comprehensive immigration reform is if american people trust that their border is secure. border security doesn't necessarily call for a wall that extends the entire extension of the border. and, you know what? go read up on el chapo and the tunnels that he dug from mexico -- >> i've been in them. i did a documentary. >> if you thin...

Things on the president's wish list and you tell me if they are nonstarters. to end china migrati-- chain mi what they call it. would you be willing to end that. >> i'm not prepared to do that. should we talk about it? sure. i think the natural trade is border security for the dreamers and -- the border security doesn't have to cost 15 or $20 billion could cost less and the president -- what chuck schumer said, mr. president, we're willing to authorize a wall and we're willing to start up with guaranteed funding and get started with it. i think that is a good offer. it is an honest officer. >>...

And there seems to be real opposition, sort of surprising opposition to me coming from democrats, for even some border security measures that are not as kellyanne conway mentioned on this network, a full and complete wall across thousands of miles of border. that border security doesn't have to mean the wall is physical thousands of miles long wall. >> she says rivers, maybe it's fencing, seems maybe a little watered down. close us out. >> chris is right. also an issue on democrat side. and reason democrats are reluctant to agree, is they don't want to make concessions, all concessions on daca...