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♪ . >> sean: funding a border wall and finding a solution for daca recipients are two of the most contentious issues in congress and in the country. senator jeff flake joins us right now from scottsdale. wait a second senator, you'll pay for the wall? you have a way to pay for the wall and make daca, get these daca kids legalize did? >> let me take the daca portion first. what we've introduced will allow those kids who were brought here when they were children, to be able to stay, and over a ten-year period, they would be in a probationary stage when then they could obtain a green card. that...

Insidiary when you add the other pieces. you're going to piss off one part of the group and the whole deal will collapse. >> some of the more controversial aspects of this seem to be the cutting of legal immigration as well as this re-branded safe act, essentially. here's what senator flake had to say. >> i doubt that you'll have enough time to do the kind of legislating, horse trading, whatever you want to call it to deal with legal immigration. i think that most likely saying it will have the daca fix and then some kind of border security element. >> is jeff flake right? is that what this ul...

They're going to bring additional people with them. we're not looking up at 800,000 number. this has long been a contentious issue, not just for epub against, but for democrats as well. there's a reason why congress, both republican and democratic and administration have been grappling with things like the dream act for something like 16 years now. i'm not convinced this is going to get done even when democrats have both bodies of congress and president obama in the white house, they failed to get comprehensive immigration reform done. i think is going to be a lot of democrats that have issues...

Magnet of illegal jobs which is the reason people come here. how do you stop people from hiring people illegally, how do you do that, that is the reason that come here -- they get here and the person just gets here two days ago is the most desperate and works the hardest for the lowest money. how do you stop that pattern of exploitation? >> well, the best way to stop it is to secure the border and provide a path to legal status so folks can come out. >> now, this is what -- this the failure to be comprehensive. what do you do to enforce our immigration laws. >> well, there should be stricter p...

To stay and who has to go. it also included a border security element. rather than doing something like building a wall which is mostly symbolic, he ought to be doing real policy and working with the congress to really solve our immigration challenge. >> i call it bad policy, the border wall. but it's one of the things that got him elected. elections have consequences. >> you won't get any disagreement from me about that. it also doesn't make it good policy. in fact 59% of americans disagree with building a wall along our southern border. >> one of the things the white house seems to indicate ...