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But, for those people, if you don't have a wall system, we're not going to have a country. >> laura: is he back on the construction site today. i loved it joining us now for reaction is the ceo who submitted one of those prototypes, fisher sand and gravel ceo tommy fisher joins us from phoenix. okay, fisher sand and gravel. you guys have been in business for, i don't know, since 1952. it's a family run company. and what was it like to have the president check out the prototype today? >> it was a great honor for myself and all the employees and hopefully my dad looking down from heaven to see w...

Immigration package and i will give you basically 15% of what you want just dealing with daca. that's not really how deals are made. so that's why i feel it's phony, this is the trump not wanting to deal coming out here. >> just so we're clear here. what the president is specifically talking about is a pathway to citizenship for 1.8 million dreamers. that isn't a little deal. that's a significant deal. >> it's 15% of the undocumented immigration problem. he wants 100% of solution on the security side for it. >> that's not 100% of the security deal. there are plenty more republican wants and ne...

Border wall, immigration and this whole mess we have, the door is not open yet and democrats already threatening a government shutdown. >> there should be border security, real border security and help for the dreamers. what they want to do is take 800,000 dreamers, kept them. democrats have to hold the line. rob: what do people defending the border think, the people who have to keep this under control? brandon judd is president of the national border patrol council and he is speaking at the homeland security hearing and joins us live, thanks for coming on this morning. >> appreciate you havin...

Entire democratic party seems to hate the idea of the wall even though they want border security. do you agree the wall sent the message of not inclusivity? >> it does. what we are seeing, the height of hypocrisy from the democrats, democrats in 2013 wanted immigration reform for an additional 700 miles of double fencing, the only thing that has changed is we have trump sitting in the white house instead of obama in the white house and against, where they anti-immigrant in 2013? that is where the hypocrisy comes in and what the american people are tired of, tired of deadlock, politicians playi...

Looking at that right now. he goes on to say, there's some people that want to go back to the old system. we'll look at that, potentially breaking up the banks. breaking up the banks, is that something he is just looking at or is that something that is a preference of his at this point? >> i think i mentioned in the opening, he's looking at a 21st century glass seal. he mentioned it on the campaign trail. shouldn't be a surprise to anybody. it is something that's being looked at. sara? >> you're saying you're not confident the votes are lined up behind the healthcare bill. this morning when ga...