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That's about a little over $500 million for that. there's another about $560 million for immigration judges. this is not border security per se but these are the judges that handle the claims of people that present themselves at the border and claim asylum, of which there has been a large up tick that the president also talks about being a big threat. >> julie, when we talk about nearing some sort of progress here to get the government reopened, we can't characterize this as a compromise, can we? >> reporter: well, no, this is more in the vain of democrats telling the public and the president ...

>> of course, as you point out, it is part of a border security issue. so there was a lot more involved, and we're willing to talk about that. we want compress hence tariff immigration reform, but you can't do it while government is shuttered. we asked mitch mcconnell to pay bills that are already passed the senate, and most agencies are not even involved in this fight. it's ridiculous. >> i think it's safe to say that the american people hold the president responsible. he asked them to, but i think they will tire of this game of chicken eventually. do you think that democrats will

Are really hurting with not being able to get a check. it's affecting their family, their credit, their lives. this is serious business. so your answer is how do you reach a compromise with president trump? it's difficult when he's holding america hostage, but clearly we believe in border security, so yes, we're willing to talk about border security. we know we need additional resources spent. but there is a way in which we can work out border security issue, but open government. >> so five years ago, i know you know this, congress supported a wall of fencing, every single democrat he voted fo...

Is necessary to seal a 1,900 mile border. and i don't think the president -- i think he is tired of fooling around on the border security issue. if there are logger heads and you want to open up government -- let me put it this way, if the president does invoke the national emergencies act, some of my colleagues think it will end the western civilization. i don't. and i have done enough research on it to know with the caveat i'm not recommending it, it will be challenged in court, but the president's position will not be frivolous. >> you are certainly seeing both sides dig in here. we always ...

He made the stunning confession he passed along sensitive information to tehran in a plea deal reached after a closed door trial. he faces possible 11 years in prison and expected to be sentenced next month. president trump's visit to mcallen, texas marking the latest stage in the fight over border security. even if the two sides reach an agreement to end the partial shutdown, the bigger issue still looms, how to fix the immigration system. here with me now, ta march jacoby, opportunity america, great to have you here. >> great to be here. >> dana: this shutdown will get solved at some point a...