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Practical, not rational. the huge meeting at 4:00 today. a final thought on you running for president. it's a long shot. how do you win? >> avoid distractions and keep your eye on the ball, the problems that americans face, whether it's the extraordinary border security issues and the influx in the coming days when title 42 is lifted and when you talk about my experience working on border security issues, drug enforcement issues, that's the case that you have to make for the american public. we've got a ways to go but are not distracted like some of the other candidates are with a whole host o...

Could be seen by some to be an over reaction. on the other hand, the decision by the australian open to give djokovic an exemption to play was broadly unpopular here. a country that has done it really tough throughout lockdown, paid a significant price, a lot of personal sacrifice. a lot of anger at the idea that someone could be treated very differently to the rest of the australian public. on top of that you have a federal election looming in this country. the australian government never likes to look soft on border security issues particularly around the corner from a federal election. at t...

Former acting secretary for the dhs, chad wolf. mr. secretary, thank you for taking time and what a perfect guest to talk about what we just heard from our great reporter, bill melugin, down there. he was talking about the 650 migrants stopped, many of them children. and i can't help but think it's interesting that it coincided on the same day that your counterpart, secretary mayorkas, and secretary blink were in mexico talking about -- secretary blinken were in mexico talking about border security issues. what do you make of it? >> the issue we saw with hundreds of migrants in those tractor-t...

Where the appropriators are able to come to this deal on the border security issues, but they are about to turn in the senate to abortion votes. we're going to see votes as we discussed about the green new deal which senate majority leader mcconnell is enthusiastic about getting everyone on the record on and gun votes in the house. these are ways both parties are going to try to put themselves on the record and put their opponents on the record in the run up to a very competitive set of elections still more than a year away. >> everybody is opposed to messaging votes nl s unless thet the other...

It. it's powerful stuff. not good. >> okay. so the white house has given no explanation as to where the president got this from. is he confusing a fictional movie plot with actual border security issues? >> i think he's lying. look, don, i've told you before. i know a little something about men. after their voice cracks, you're not going to change them. donald trump has been lying his entire life. this guy lied about the draft. this guy lied about how much he's worth. this guy lied about what kind of money he got from his father. this guy had pseudonyms. he would call and lie about himself as ...