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$1.6 billion in border security. it includes some of the infrastructure you are referring to. >> harris: do you think walls work in some places, though? excuse me, we don't have a lot of time. so i want to get that question in. >> i disagree with the president, the way that he characterized saying that walls will make us safe. walls will not make us safe. what makes us safe on the border is smart technology, doing immigration policies that make sense for this country. there's a lot involved in border security. i'm convinced that given the opportunity we can respond to the president's request w...

Out of the committee on to the senate floor, and after some debate if nothing changes in these dynamics, it looks like he will be confirmed. do you expect that to be pretty much a party line vote? >> well, i think we still want to get more information from mr. barr. i know there are still meetings taking place with senators. we are concerned about whether he will make available the full report from the mueller investigation. we also want to make sure that he will not impede the needs of the mueller investigation. so that's of major concern. there are other issues, including border security iss...

Behind it, other than he believes that he is doing this and he's going to gain some favor from mr. putin and others. it is just totally head-scratching. >> and on nato what seems to be lost in it all, the one lesson you might be able to teach donald trump is remember world war i, remember world war ii, they were 20 years apart. 20 years later, those same countries, those same european countries were all very strong allies thanks to, among other things, an organization called nato. >> and american leadership. >> yep. >> and we were not recoiling from the leadership responsibilities around the w...

Were to allow a senate vote on the government funding bills that nancy pelosi has moved through the house of representatives and sent to the senate? >> there's no question in my mind that the majority of senators would vote to open government. this is clearly something that president trump has done. you remember, we did that once before, we did it in december by unanimous vote. we voted for a continuing resolution and the appropriation bills that have nothing to do with the border security issues have already been acted on by the senate. so clearly if mitch mcconnell allowed us to vote on the ...

Out of washington? >> i want them to open the federal government back up. get us back to work. and then have the debate on border security and anything else outside of the shutdown. i mean, having 800,000 employees not being paid plus all the contractors not being paid it's a huge impact not just personally but economically. they need to open the federal government back up. >> thank you very much for your time. you got a sense here just how intense this was. you had over 700 people trying to get information. we also i sa a lot saw a lot of. these are people that haven't seen each other. they w...