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Barrier or wall or whatever we're calling it today, whatever the politically correct term is, whether it's necessary or not and whether it's politically palatable to her. >> listen, i will grant you that the speaker has been -- has dug her heels, other democrats have dug their heels, although we have heard signs that maybe they will give money but you know as well as me that to get this done you need compromise on both sides. >> sure, sure. >> what does that compromise look like. if you're sitting in the room with 17 bipartisan senators and lawmakers, what would be your proposal to get this ov...

They engage in crime less than their american or illegal immigrant peers. this is a claim the president made that undocumented immigrants during his campaign, and as a justification for the wall and to attract attention to the claim, this is the second time he's invited family members of victims of such crime to the state of the union so our verdict as we run this through the cnn fact checking team, a misleading claim at best. joining me for his reaction to this and other claims by the president, senator john kennedy, republican from the great state of louisiana, also a member of the senate ...

It's not clear what democrats will get in return. the president is trying to argue democrats don't care at all which that's what they want to counteract and say we do care we just want sensible border security. we want more modern and not just a big wall. >> there's talk about what the president can claim victory over. say they he can claim victory, he got money for the wall but democrats have v thrown down the gauntlet as well. nancy pelosi until recently her position was not a single dollar for the wall and seems to have made a political judgment that no works for them so what is -- how do d...

You have 17 democrats and republicans working on this, off vision inside that conference. does it look like democrats are going to give money for a barrier on the boarder? >> i think what you'll see is the conference committee do what appropriators do. democrats have always supported border secure. we think it's important to use taxpayer none a wise way that achieves the objectives so there will be rebuilding the infrastructure at the ports of entry where most drugs come in, making sure we build 2,000 border patrol positions which are unfilled because we can't retain folks. making sure we're u...

Ridiculous partisan investigations. [ cheers and applause ] >> on border issues, the president didn't declare a national emergency, as some expected, an end run it would be to finance a wall. nor did he threaten another shutdown, didn't even mention the word shutdown. he did call the, quote, lawless southern border an urgent national crisis and a threat to all americans. we'll break all of this down in the hour ahead beginning the joe johns at the white house. joe, a state of the union speech can serve as a reset for a president who's had setbacks. there seem to be something of a reset message...