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Wall. >> laura: but what about the $18 billion a year for health care? >> i think when people are living in the country we need to make sure they are not unhealthy. >> laura: all right. >> but the key thing here is that the border wall doesn't have the votes and will have less in about two weeks. the votes aren't there. it's theoretical. they're not going to get the money from this congress. so why are we shutting down the golf for a vote that won't work in the president's favor? >> laura: we deal in the realm of facts. so we have 25% of the government nonessential employees, nonessential serv...

Twentieth century fox put out this trailer to end the debate. >> get ready to jingle some bells. and deck the halls. bruce willis in the greatest christmas story ever told. >> this doesn't end the debate at all. i know their time but remember what bruce willis said a few years ago. >> die hard is not christmas movie. >> then there was the poll, 62 percent of people said it's not a christmas movie only 25 percent. diehard was. though happy to have the debate we can have it on twitter, i have my own royal guide to is i a christmas movie. here's my checklist. is it during christmas. can the whole...

Based on that criteria, "die hard" is not a christmas movie. do you agree? >> i love the movie. it's '80s. am i getting it right? it's -- who doesn't want to go back to the late '80s. i love the movie but it's not a christmas movie at all. >> it's not. >> laura: just because there's an ornament on a tree in a movie doesn't mean it's a christmas movie. but you like christmas vacation. is that one of your favorites? >> we're going to go through a few, let's start with home alone which is written by john hughes. this is a boy taking on a pair of hapless criminals and protecting his home. this got...

Wall. >> but you're fine with paying for the $18 billion a year for healthcare? that's cool with you? >> when people. >> okay, see her all right with that. >> the key thing here is the border wall doesn't have the votes. you will have less with votes i about two weeks. the votes aren't there. it's theoretical. they're not going to get the money from this congress. they haven't for two years so why are we shutting down for th government for a vote that will work in the presidents favor. >> we don't deal in the realm o facts we have 25 percent of the government nonessential employees, nonessenti...

You're reaction there? >> i think you're overstating obama has intervention. he was the author of the surge in afghanistan. he put from forces in syria. i agree with you on this we nee a definition of success were isis the national security experts that were hearing so much from complaining about thi have a standard defeat for isis that's impossible to achieve. sort of like if anybody in syri thinks nicely at isis or says anything in their favor, we had to stay in syria forever. i should doesn't have any territory anymore. it's an important thing. drinks are decimated. they been mostly killed....