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Briefing room yesterday, again saying congress needs to get going on an immigration bill. this is a national crisis. we'll have the secretary here on "morning joe" a little later. the white house, yes, they'd love to talk about this, but they don't really anticipate it going anywhere. there's not even with these scenes at the border, there's not a real sense that this is the moment for immigration reform. in fact, i think, instead, most of the anticipation is republicans will simply use this as fodder for attacks on president biden, fair or not, and say, look, the border is broken, and try to ...

A consent order works in what way?

Immigration issues and how the border works and how immigration law works in general. so this is not surprising at all. he said some pretty bad things, in my opinion, to members of the congressional hispanic caucus that were tone deaf so this does not surprise me whatsoever and doesn't surprise me why the white house can't get anything done on daca they can't do anything internally because they can't figure out what the hell is going on -- heck is going on. i apologize. >> the white house trying to explain a cruel joke allegedly made by kelly sadler, a white house aide, about john mccain. she ...

Of poison pills. the way regular order works, the way our constitution sees congress working is, the house passes a bill. the senate passes a bill. and they work together. there's no moral relativism here. the house continues to pass budgets. the senate bill not pass a budget. and when the senate doesn't pass a budget, david, what happens is you take the budgetiers out of it, all of the appropriators out of it, you force a crisis, which harry reid's senate has forced, and you have three or four of the top people on the hill rushing down to talk to the president at the last moment instead of ha...

But it was a heck of a lot easier if they could get him because some of the democrats were this fairly safe seats. some of these guys have held their seats longer, so by getting them onboard, because they liked a lot of the other policies, that allowed pelosi to let a few others walk. >> does this executive order -- a lot of people on the left, democrats in the house, especially pro-choice women are saying this is meaningless, it's a fig leaf, it does nothing. >> well, we'll see if there's a court challenge. to test whether this works, somebody is going to have to say, well, okay, the law says...