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Prosecutor, relaying all sorts of conversations he had, and he just said this about the new stance on russian collusion. he said it was sort of like a gift of the campaign material stolen by russia. >> it was a gift. the e-mails were a gift. the potential proposals to get projects done in moscow were gifts. one of the things that bob mueller has to be looking at that i is possibly the most threatening to trump are financial quid pro quos in exchange for policy shifts whether it involved the lifting of economic sanctions in russia or change in attitude toward ukraine. obviously mueller is looki...

Stolen by russia. >> it was a gift. the e-mails were a gift. the potential proposals to get projects done in moscow were gifts. one of the things that bob mueller has to be looking at that i is possibly the most threatening to trump are financial quid pro quos in exchange for policy shifts whether it involved the lifting of economic sanctions in russia or change in attitude toward ukraine. obviously mueller is looking at those things. i don't think rudy is probably being judicious when he describes these as gifts. >> mike cohen, donald trump's someone who has a very tight circle with his famil...

Manager and i'll be a great deal maker. those were part of the twin selling points. but the reality is he's never been a great manager. he's never liked process. he has a short attention span. he's not intellectually and emotionally disciplined. and we're seeing all this surface now in the white house. >> he would always talk about his 10,000 employees. but the trump organization itself was actually pretty small. >> it's a very boutique operation run out of the 26th floor trump tower. it's never been big. the only big thing he oversaw was his casino business and he drove that into the ground. ...

Decided well maybe i will run as a third party candidate? it would mean the republicans would lose. and if anything that the bush dynasty remembers is ross perot. they remember, george bush senior, junior and jeb bush all remember perot and blame perot for their father's loss to bill clinton. >> yeah. gloria, we saw hillary clinton and jeb bush going at it on twitter last night over women's health funding. they seem more interested in attacking each other than going after any of their primary opponents. do they want to face each other in the general? is that part of it? they canceled the dynas...

But given the fact that so few people are going to be able to access this, we don't really see this as being an issue. >> well, all right. well, there is a lot at stake right now. i know you are keeping close watch on it. thank you for joining us today. appreciate your insight. >> thank you very much. >> obamacare is intended to provide coverage for almost all but it's having the opposite effect as we have been reporting on many, including owners at one small business. senior national correspondent john roberts sat down with one person to talk more about this. >> debbie and larry started the t...