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Influence not only the investigation, but the actua outcome of the investigation really devastating evidenc that just plays very poorly fo the defendant in a courtroom >> matthew dowd, the four woma on the grand jury, emily kohrs -- told nbc that this phone cal lasted about four minutes. ten minutes. she recalls at one point tha trump asked speaker rawlston that she would stop him from holding a special session to overturn the election, essentially asked him who woul stop him from holding that special session. and according to kohrs, ralsto responded, a federal judge that is who. your reaction...

Devastating evidence that -- it just plays very poorly fo the defendant in a courtroom >> matthew dowd, the four four woman on the grand jury, emily kohrs -- told nbc that this phone cal lasted about four minutes. she calls at one point, that trump asked speaker rolston -- essentially asked him who woul stop him from holding a specia session to overturn th election, essentially asked hi who would stop him from holdin that special session and according to kohrs, ralsto responded, a federal judge that is who. what your reaction to this >> well, we continued it, as w have for a long period of tim...