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Tape over and over again for the last two years now they heard the criminality they heard he was making thi effort to pressure georgia officials to overturn that election so that's the case for a lot o people a lot of people are surprise it hasn't come to an indictmen already because it is so clear what was happening but on top of that, we are now seeing the full breadth of the attempted criminality when w talk about fake electors, when we talk about plans to acces voting machines in georgia there was so much going on because that was the linchpi of this election to donald trump and his surrog...

But no one was with him in a room to give contemporaneous evidence about the phone cal between donald trump and mik pence was. so, there might be something very interesting >> it might be, you know assuming that he tells the truth, i'll be very telling. i'm sure he knows that peopl were saying outside the capital, hang mike pence. he'll be asked, how did yo feel about that? did you hear that they wer doing that so, it'll be very compelling testimony. >> is there any, would joc smith and all be concerned about finding willis and georgia, going ahead with he case they relate to each other, they'...

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Influence not only the investigation, but the actua outcome of the investigation really devastating evidenc that just plays very poorly fo the defendant in a courtroom >> matthew dowd, the four woma on the grand jury, emily kohrs -- told nbc that this phone cal lasted about four minutes. ten minutes. she recalls at one point tha trump asked speaker rawlston that she would stop him from holding a special session to overturn the election, essentially asked him who woul stop him from holding that special session. and according to kohrs, ralsto responded, a federal judge that is who. your reaction...

Devastating evidence that -- it just plays very poorly fo the defendant in a courtroom >> matthew dowd, the four four woman on the grand jury, emily kohrs -- told nbc that this phone cal lasted about four minutes. she calls at one point, that trump asked speaker rolston -- essentially asked him who woul stop him from holding a specia session to overturn th election, essentially asked hi who would stop him from holdin that special session and according to kohrs, ralsto responded, a federal judge that is who. what your reaction to this >> well, we continued it, as w have for a long period of tim...