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His campaign. finally, trump's efforts to stop pall and michael cohen from cooperating with the governor. joyce, anybody should be able to recognize, because going back to nixon, obstruction of justice is killing the case. in nixon's case, getting the fbi off the case by saying it was a cia matter. in this case, trying to fire the prosecutor. >> and there clearly is obstruction here. at least several of the events mueller detailed, all of the elements a prosecutor would need to prosecute are established. and why obstruction matters so much here is that there is obviously a lot of angst in the ...

European -- out of europe with the irish border situation? how do they do that? i've been watching that. how does that work? >> well, that's the question this country has been asking for nearly two years. that's the question that people have been asking boris johnson for the last two years. he has never fully answered the question, except to say in the most general terms we're going to do this. it's a do or die thing. we have a can do spirit. it's very much like president trump saying make america great again without any specifics. this is boris johnson, perfectly summarized, that he talks in ...

Are republicans going to try to take this all the way back to hillary and say she is the one who hired christopher steele, that she put this all together and say it's all a witch hunt created by the democrats, or are they simply going to try to deflect and mess up the coherence of the day? >> they're not all the same. so i think that you'll see the most aggressive questioning from matt gaetz, jim jordan. >> and their goal will be? >> the origins of the investigation and to question the people who worked on the investigation and all the things that we've just been talking about. i do not expect...

Of an election? were they working with our rivals in the world? they're not our friends. and if they did that's a political question the guy in erie or allentown, the regular person, that's historically wrong. we don't want our candidates playing with foreigners when it comes to winning an election. now let's get to the legal question of obstruction of justice, which i think is the legal question. lawmakers will ask mueller to delve into the 11 obstructive acts that he found in his report that the president carried out, many of which were intended to prevent further scrutiny of trump's own act...

>> what are the elements of conspiracy. did the president do x? do y? >> a "hardball" headline? >> the problem is these aren't easy concepts. they're not bumper stickers. it's so easy to say no obstruction, no collusion. to talk about what's in the mueller report is more difficult. >> thank you, both, natasha and joyce. joining me is ted lieu of california who is on the district. here is a question for tomorrow, a romantic question, okay. i'm in the business of looking for heroes. will there be one tomorrow? will the american people walk away from watching seven hours in the morning and say yo...