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Weren't allowed to be consoled or held by the staff workers there, for these young children, the amount of stress hormones that buildsystem, it actually destructs their brain structure. it limits the emotional support, language, gross motor support, d is devastating toir overall development. >> secretary nielsen takes exception to some of the comments like those we've heard. she said a couple of minutes ago -- i'm not going to play it because i think jeff sessions might speak any minute -- but she says, it is important to note these minors are very well-taken care of. she says, don't believe t...

Conscience and lies about everything. i don't know if you could make any appeal. look at his tactic here. he's saying i'm going to do these terrible things, we're going to separate these kids and it's your fault because you won't give me $25 billion for the border wall and you want cut off illegal immigration from brothers and sisters from american citizens if the if you won't do these things i'm going to do these terrible things and it's your fault. it's like a gangster movie, if you don't pay me the ransom i'll blow up your restaurant and it's your fault. >> thanks for coming on. i appreciat...

Described this as a possible deterrent. this was over in the spring. john kelly said this may be a way to stop families, stop adults and children from crossing the border illegally. kaitlyn and nancy, that's where we are at this moment in time. expected at the briefing in about 2 1/2 hours now we'll be there as you see secretary nielsen walk off of stage. i expect that sara and issers will have another frankly pretty heated discussioning with reporters in that room just like we saw at the end of last week. >> it was a very tense brief on this where sara and is assers was asked and had to fall ...

President trump, they're not moving on this. they don't want to be budging here. >> they're not budging at all on it. i think that actually they've been planning sort of much more aggressive immigration things to roll out this summer ahead of the midterm. i don't think this is the last we're going to see. >> as sometimes happens at this hour, we have a lot of breaking news. i want to get over to the supreme court. that's because we have a new decision that is in. nbc's pete williams is joining us now on a case that could have nationwide implications for how we vote across the country. the ruli...

Sort of how agress safe stance to take on immigration. that's been sort of an internal backdrop there. there's not total agreement on this policy in these white house meets. >> but what there seemsbe agreement on is we are not going to bwn. show i've been getting text from an administration official wh watching and making their case live via text message about sort of the things that we've been hearing from secretary nielsen and others about why they believe this is something that democrats can get on board and change. again, the president could choose, he could choose not to criminally prosec...