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Joe biden i don't know stepped by saying in effect i know brac suppo support joe biden is the reason it moved forward. it's not like this guy is some dixiecrat. i mean, he said from the beginning he went to congress because of civil rights and wasn't just civil rights on race, it was civil rights on marria marriage. >> look, the benefit of biden is he comes to the table with a lot of history and a lot of experience with baggage along with the benefit you were just talking about the problem is two fold it seems to me.