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For its own interests and let us not forget that many of those countries are the victim of some of that intervention. joining me now, alexander hefner, host of "the open mind" on pbs and shermichael singleton, a republican political consultant. shermichael, you know, i, when the birther movement was going and donald trump became the face of it, i would say it was rac t racist, and i remember getting a call from michael cohen who was at that time president's lawyer and fixer saying he's upset you're calling him a racist. it led to a meeting, and i told him, no, i said what you say is racist, i'...

Own talent for free. so if she believes this is a way, she believes in the nfl inspire change, a prid prid quo pro-you see numbers dwindling but it's up to her. anybody willing to uplift rac t racist -- we've seen this at every point of the equation. >> how is the nfl racist when 80% of the players are black. first off. gladys knight should be the symbol of america. as black people why would we not want her soninging the national anthem. i have two masters degrees in go along with it and -- >> you need one more. need one more. >> i'll be in africa next week. >> god bless. >> come see me and se...

Things. he went on the say that hillary clinton didn't pay enough attention to this county, that she wasn't speaking to voters directly, wasn't hearing from them and wasn't connecting with them. what do you think of those charge was race and sexism and immigration? >> we should note he is the county democratic chair in that county. and he was trying to give a kind of what i think was a pretty even-handed view both crediting trump with his ability to reach people without being politically correct, and you know, crediting clinton with failure to come out there. i think that there is no question ...

That suddenly a republican would discover that maybe this unconventional president isn't really great for an underlying movement concern of agenda. huh. >> well, and john, and maybe if they've been speaking out against the worst -- his worst instincts, his worst character traits from the very beginning as i've been saying, maybe he would have checked those at the gate when he went into the white house. if he thought he ever was going to have to pay any consequences from the republican party, but they have bowed and they have scraped and they have been scared to death and let's just start at th...

Phrase violence or radicalism on both sides like the president said. this is an equation where rac t racists and violence on one side and as if it is morally equal to antiraces and peaceful in the idea that all men are created equal on the other side. this is the leader of the free world and in a way he normalizes the greatest danger to the free world's values. and i think this is not acceptable. as a citizen for the homeland for the jewish people and now it's supposed to lead the idea of a world that is free from those expressions i think the idea of condemning all kinds of violence of all si...