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Are some way affiliated with the military enough conventional weapons on the border to basically destroy hundreds of thousands of people in soule, and that's the situation we face it's not just them coming at us. >> trish: you heard ambassador bolton earlier saying look, you got soule or chicago. there may be a point where we make very extremely hard decisions. >> they aren't to a point where they are threatening us. they are talking about it and they may be right today the issue is if you really are making the hard decisions here, do you want to start a war and we'll have to start it, argue t...

Hydro gone people is a much more sophisticated weapon easier to make at this point in time and even to test this morning set off two earthquakes in his own country that were pretty significant, so my sense is he's on a fast-track, he's not afraid of us, because he's naive i think but to a certain extent that's the reality. >> trish: what's he want? brad what is the goal here? just to be an international player on the world stage and have us get the heck out of the region? >> the goal is for us to cave and to accept north korea as a nuclear power. now, as john bolton pointed out earlier once yo...

To show kim jong un with that warhead. let's bring in ed rollins, and brad blakemans former deputy assistant to president george w. bush. good to see both of you made a decision to take theon nucleares off the table and ever since then every single administration at some point in time has had the defense department come over and say what are the options to take them out and every time it's the same thing. as steve bannon went out the door one of the things he said you want to war korea be prepared for losing millions of lives. south korea is like a hostage situation. there are 25 million peopl...