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Editorial board meeting before christmas. his quote still rings in my ears. the eyes can't see what the brain doesn't know. and this was something he used as a lesson as a doctor teaching medical school and residents. but he used that lesson to help him see and know why what he was accused of doing was so painful. what do make of his efforts, of governor northam's efforts at restoration, at reconciliation in virginia? >> you were brilliant in your deconstruction in your fine essay in "the washington post." and here's the thing, it was powerful for ralph northam to do that, for governor northam...

Before christmas. this quotes the rings in my ears. i just can't see what the brain doesn't know. in this was something that he uses as a doctor and teaching medical students and residents. he used that lesson to help him see and no, why, why he was accused of what he was doing. it's so painful, what do you make of his efforts? his efforts at reconciliation and -- >> -- here is the thing, it was powerful for ralph north to do what -- that let's be real. one michael called me up politicians from the state called me up and said hey we should we pursue this? or should we offer forgiveness? or sho...

America who marched after george floyd was killed, what can they do now? what is the role of the collective in restorative justice? >> that is a great point. i think what they have to do is do what northam did. if the eyes can't see what the brain doesn't know, then know some more stuff. read jonathan capehart. read nikole hannah-jones. read bell hooks. read people who can inform you. james baldwin. i would recommend every american read that book to grapple with the powerful articulation of the politics of grief that have besieged black people, the traumas we have endured, but the overcoming p...

Commonwealth, a commonwealth that is more open, more inclusive and really welcoming to people. and as i like to remind people, our society is becoming more diverse every day and that's a good thing. and it will continue to go in that direction. so virginia needs to embrace that diversity if we're going to be able to move forward. so we need to be able to treat people right. that's the right thing to do, and it's also good for business. and i think it's a reason we have seen we can treat people right. we can be a progressive commonwealth and at the same time we can have a robust economy. >> gov...

>> you know, the thousands of people from all corners of america who marched after george floyd was killed, what can they do now? what is the role of the collective in restorative justice? >> well, that's a great point. i think what they have to do is to do what northam did. if the -- the eyes can't see what the brain doesn't know, then know some more stuff. read jonathan capehart, read nicole hannah jones, read bell hooks, read people who can inform you, james baldwin, the fire next time, i would recommend every american read that book to grapple with the powerful articulation of the politics...