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Meantime, a turning point in mental health care came 50 years ago when john f. kennedy signed the community mental health act. the goal was to stop locking people up in institutions. send them home. build centers to treat them, but the money wasn't there to follow through. people were released. many went to places where people couldn't treat them. patrick kennedy works to build on that 1963 law. he joins me from capitol hill. wonderful to have you on. >> thanks, brooke. good to be with you. >> you got it. what is it like to be a former member of congress and a member of one of america's most p...

About these issues. i really appreciate it. >> you know, i found that comment by tucker carlson so very disturbing because, again, it moves us in the exactly wrong direction and i know one of the things that you have talked about, i have read what you have written, that even bringing the issue from a legislative perspective to the floor was in some bways -- there was a stigm just with doing that. you think about the stigma if you need help of coming forward. >> well, i'm sure tucker's family as all of our families and my own included were not exempt from brain illness. we all have a brain and ...

Green vegetables. it's kind of a first world problem or one percenter problem. or look at you, how could you be depressed? you have a good job and a good life. i think that's why it's important for people who do deal with depression to come out and talk about it if they are comfortable. obviously it's a personal decision. but if they are comfortable, because i think it shows a lot of people who deal with this that first of all, it's not your fault. and second of all, it's not like x, y, z would have had to happen to you to become depressed. it's a brain illness. there's something physiological...

Addiction is a brain illness. i interviewed 150 of the smartest people on the planet. this is a serious brain illness. once you know you have it you are responsible for treating it. he did not treat it. and most people that don't treat it either end up you in jail, in an institution, or dead. >> geraldo: what about the responsibility of the company who made the deal with that enentity? >> the company's responsibility he is an ace is set. they have to take care of their asset or not. they insured their asset. their asset died and they are going to get paid. it is american business. that is the ...

Addiction is a brain illness. i interviewed 150 of the smartest people on the planet. this is a serious brain illness. once you know you have it you are responsible for treating it. he did not treat it. and most people that don't treat it either end up you in jail, in an institution, or dead. >> geraldo: what about the responsibility of the company who made the deal with that enentity? >> the company's responsibility he is an ace is set. they have to take care of their asset or not. they insured their asset. their asset died and they are going to get paid. it is american business. that is the ...