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That resonates -- >> we don't know in 2014, 2016. the president is smart to target the house 17 seats is within their grasp. we had to overcome to 39. so 17 is even with the redistricting we lost eight seats. there is a possibility. i think the brand issue is an important one. but i think mark has it right about in terms of what, you know, we will see from jeb bush the next few years. jane, how do you see the house shaping up in this battle? clearly nancy pelosi and crew want the reins back. you've been on that side and you've seen that leadership push. is there not just the push to take contr...

That's it. >> chris christie won't be there at all. you'd think they'd want to embrace chris. when i see the 20 points with women, women, if you aren't inflicting an ultrasound probe on them, they're pragmatists. christie's good for new jersey, he's good for women, and he's found a way to weave programs that win in new jersey, and the republican party doesn't want to embrace that? in fact, they want to shun him? it's just preposterous. >> a pro-life governor in the state of new jersey is plus 20 with women. john heilemann. >> well, you know, i slightly reject -- i mean, look, christie's doing ...

Amount of daylight, these leaders need to step aside because it's a brand issue for the democratic party and it's tainting our brand. >> you are shaking your head. >> dave is right in the sense that it's a major brand issue. on "meet the press," the leader just called an accused harasser an icon. the next thing she will say is, is harvey weinstein legendary because he gave so much? these are bad people and they have to go and it seems like the congressman stepping down only to cover her tracks after what she said on "meet the press." here's the bigger issue. is this moral equivalency of well, ...

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Democrats and the obama campaign confidence. >> howard, i have that to which you refer, look at these incredible numbers from a new poll out today. men and women, asked about the presidential race, there was a big gender gap. among men, barack obama and mitt romney in a virtual tie, but for women, it is an 18 point margin. this is is a gop brand issue as much as anything else. what do you think lies behind that data. >> we fin that men and women have different priorities. men ranked the debt and deficit at the top, and women ranked health care. women are concerned about the economy, but it's w...