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He said tariffs. if we don't make a deal, i'll put the $200 billion. it is $267 billion in tariffs -- okay. what he means is tariffs. >> you need to translate that. >> this is the president calling the shots himself making very big threats. we heard from robert lightheiser who said the chinese have not made any meaningful offers. how is there a chance for bre breakthrough? >> there are divisions, christine. i think he cannot come back empty handed with the michael cohen swirling. he at least has to have a good atmosphere and nice dinner and photo op. more than that, the two leaders have to agr...

If you back me up, i'll pardon you. again, there is no evidence that i know of yet of collusion. why is the president so afraid of robert mueller? let this play out. that's what so many people, jeff flake, and others are saying. if you have done nothing wrong, let it play out. he is overreacting. he may be innocent of collusion, but reating -- creating more problems. >> what does your smart gut say about the breakthrough with china? >> i think there is a bre breakthrough. he wants to be the disruptor. >> or kick the can with tariffs. >> it is all about american jobs. critical meeting. >> david...

Appropriate. so i'm just surprised that people of this stature would produce something that is so ridiculous. >> well, but again -- >> even if it wa done the staffers -- >> you would have to sit there and say despite all the nontraditional ways donald trump does things, he did get north korea to the table. >> i'm not saying donald trump did this. i'm saying the staffers -- >> but, don, getting norea tohe tables i was going to say very proud of this. >> aren't they smarter than that? >> first of all, they're not the boss. so let's put this in perspective as well. that video would not have appea...

Genuinely presidential summi summits -- that have been negotiated over lower level officials by sometimes weeks or months and this caps it. if the leaders meet and they aren't able to come up with a bre breakthrough, it north korea is basically the most repressive country in the world. president trump has very harsh words for iran and its leaders. it i do hope he brings up the repression and human rights. i hope he brings up the issue of but most importantly i hope me brings up the issue of nuclear weapons and the fact that what

Silent creatures, wait until you hear the experiment and you hear them shriek. i ended up seeing rabbits chasing me in my dreams throughout my stay in that camp. can you tell basically that it had an impact. >> reporter: and what, they just died? they shrieked and died? >> of course. bleeding from their mouths and from their noses. it was awful, it was disgusting, but nonetheless, because of my undercover assignment, you can't basically say, no, don't do it, please, i don't want to take part in it. you have to witness that. >> reporter: in late 1999, all of that experimentation culminated in a...