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Was this? am i wrong in thinking that this was beyond, look at this big doesn't describe this mistake? >> i agree with you. i think it's a huge mistake in time, and entering the room. i think people get the semantics mixed up. they confuse active shooter training and hostage barricade issues. let me try to clear it up a little bit. it's an active shooter situation. the training is, you move quickly, within the first, long guns, to move toward the shortage eliminated him. which was the initial delays there, one into the breach points which the doors are locked in the classroom, that it's a prob...

I knew back then that this was going to be a problem. of course, covering virginia tech where they padlock the doors. it killed 32 people. the school in lancaster, pennsylvania, and i talked with agents and colleagues. since that time, does patrol have the ability to breach? they need to fix that. one last comment, if you do not have the tools >>. just get it here quicker. they have all of the breaching tools to get you inside or outside of court. >> jim kavanaugh and thank you, secretary castro, who will be staying with me. over the next two hours, we are going to dig into the investigation i...

To understand, i was a hostage negotiator. if you reach the other side of that door and the killer is in that door and you have no breaching tools, how are you going to get in? the smartest thing try the contact. if you can contact, you may be able to stop the killing through talking. if you can engage, if he will talk, that may stop him from killing and you may be able the buy some time until you can get an officer around to the window and maybe take him out with a sniper. by time you could ever rattle door, he could kill every one inside in 40 seconds. that's not always the answer just to ch...

Any breaching tools. this is systemic in policing. after the virginia tech massacre where they barricaded and locked the doors. the ammish school in lancaster, pennsylvania where they barricaded the doors. i always brought this up. i know we go to training but nobody is prepared to breach. they get in and get to the point of contact right behind the door. here is patrol officers. maybe they have tactical rifles. i hope so but they can't breach the door. this is a police barricade. a barricade is when a person is in a structure and they have locked the structure or pushed stuff up against the d...