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I don't think any of that is going to happen. nobody in their right mind would want to have that happen to the u.s. economy. but we shouldn't take the risk. we shouldn't lose the confidence of our creditors because we are going to need them to lend us some more money, even if we were to reduce the rate of growth of the debt, and i believe we have to. >> i share your feeling in the past, of course, that nobody in their right mind would let this happen. but i don't know who's in their right mind on capitol hill. but we are hearing statements coming out of the congress that we have never before h...

Nobody in their right mind would want to have that happen to the u.s. economy. but we shouldn't take the risk. we shouldn't lose the confidence of our creditors because we are going to need them to lend us some more money, even if we were to reduce the rate of growth of the debt, and i believe we have to. >> i share your feeling in the past, of course, that nobody in their right mind would let this happen. but i don't know who's in their right mind on capitol hill. but we are hearing statements coming out of the congress that we have never before heard about the debt ceiling. we have heard sen...