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They were talking about the big beautiful wall the mexicans would pay for. immigration, all that stuff. he focuses -- focus is not the first adjective that springs to mind. >> i guess galvanized is good. >> galvanize. >> it does raise an interesting question about when the debate with daca begins and where the breitbart wing is in terms of of making a public declaration. >> so weak, a weak bannon right now when they're talking about daca. jeff sessions' war, does he win it or lose it? >> he'll lose it eventually. on states rights, federalism grounds. mr. hickenlooper before he beca that, he we...

Bannon, he's from the trump wing of the party and stand for the things we believe in. can they discredit reporters enough to make sure it is just noise and we're going to support him anyway? it is hard to overstate how devastating a loss this would be if republicans lost the seat. both for the breitbart wing, jeff sessions was their guy. he was before trump was trump on policy issues. and for the senate republican leaders, this could cut the margin from 2-1 for tax reform. >> and is it enough as it is? they are struggling with it, too. >> they want to get the bill done before december 12th for...

For donald trump, but not necessarily for luther strange. >> so this brings up the question about 2018. because if you don't live in alabama, why should you care about this race? because number one, for mitch mcconnell, this could, if roy moore ends up winning the runoff and winning the seat, be a little bit of a legislative nightmare depending on more votes, but on the other side it would be a bellweather for 2018. if steve bannon and the breitbart wing goes after folks in arizona, in nevada, is that what we're going to see happen? >> it is certainly possible. and i think what this is a test ...

Cra crazy. he's said it publicly, what you just said. is he going to cross that breitbart wing that helped propel him to the white house. donald trump would say that breitbart wing did not propel him to the white house. being donald trump propelled him to the white house. being a public figure for 40 years propelled him to the white house, and steve bannon came on late. you know, that's the thing. the power is illusory. so many of these people that have been allowed to pass themselves off as king makers. donald trump's base is all about donald trump. and i do think that is something following ...

>> it's clear to anybody who has followed the trajectory of jeff sessions over the last several years that stephen miller was a critical part of this decision making process. sometimes people forget that miller, while he is seen as sort of a steve bannon protege, very linked to steve bannon, actually has a lot of different pieces in play, and when you talk about the internal palace intrigue part of it in a lot of different factions inside the white house and has been -- has the trust of the president, has been with him on the campaign trail from the beginning talking about this sxa exact kind ...